Hello everybody !
I have to compare the Kniterate’s technical capabilities to (for example) a Silver Reed 830 knitting machine. Since I don’t know anything about knitting, maybe you can give me the list of stitches, techniques (like can make jacquard, jersey, ribs, … I don’t know and I don’t even know the terms of knitting) that Kniterate can do.
Thanks for your help!
Jersey – also possible on the Kniterate
Stripes – also possible on the Kniterate ; will be automated on the Kniterate but manual on the SK830 (unless you buy an extra color changer YC6)
Fair Isle (Norwegian, Jacquard) – also possible on the Kniterate; however on the Kniterate 6 colors automated in one row and on the SK830 only two colors (unless you buy an extra color changer YC6 but even then not possible 6 colors in a row)
Tuck stitches – also possible on the Kniterate
Tuck lace – not sure about the Kniterate
Tuck two colors – I suppose also possible on the Kniterate
Slip stitches – not sure about the Kniterate
Slip stitches two colors – not sure about the Kniterate
Single motif (intarsia) – will be jacquard on the Kniterate
Weaving – not sure about the Kniterate
Punch Lace – this is like fair isle; the main thread it “normal” and the second thread is like sewing thread very thin which keeps the stitches together. Must be possible on the Kniterate as well.
Lace – need to have a special expensive carriage) – automated on the Kniterate, however I don’t know yet if the type of stitches are the same
Rib – only possible when you have the FRP ribber attached to the SK830
Cables – only hand manipulated on the SK830 and automated on the Kniterate
Furthermore the Kniterate can increase, decrease, cast on and bind off. This is not automated on the Silver Reed and needs to be done by hand. The process of knitting a beany (see the video somewhere on the site) on the Kniterate is not possible that way on a Silver Reed. You can do it on a Silver Reed, however you have to move all the stiches by hand to decrease that way.
I expect that the needle hook from the Kniterate is a bit larger than the Silver Reed needles because the Kniterate can knit 4 ply yarn. Can someone give details about the size in millimeter of hook/top the Kniterate needle?
The SK830 has a hook of 2.8mm and the SK840 has a hook of 3.25mm. That makes a big difference.
Any additions or corrections on above are very welcome.
One point forgotten:
the double sided jacquard knitting pattern like the Kniterate knits the scarfs is only possible on a Silver Reed with ribber attached and when you manually put the needles in shadow pattern after every row on the ribber.
Thank you very much for all this information.
Have kniterates ever been delivered to Belgium? If so, could you put me in contact with the owners so that I can see the machine and discover its capabilities?
Thanks for opening this thread. Also thanks to @Lydia for your thorough answer. We haven’t shipped any units yet, but are due to send five units to Belgium over the next months.
We are unable to share private information of our customers, so you will have to ask in the public forum for anyone from Belgium. You will see similar threads for other countries or states.
All the best,
Here’s another technical question about the Kniterate. If the bed is 36″ wide and is also a *double* bed, would it be possible to set it up to knit a blanket that is 72″ wide, by using the two beds of needles for the left and right halves, respectively, of the blanket? It would then be knitted with a lengthwise fold on one side of the machine (and the other edge left open, i.e., the two sides not connected).
I’d like to have an image that spans the double-width blanket, so part 2 of my question (if the answer to part 1 is yes) is whether the software will be equipped for this?
Interesting question. It is possible but the use would be limited to single jersey and without any structure because the double bed is needed for transfers and racking. I would say possible patterns are coloured stripes and maybe fairisle. You might need to cast off the piece with a linker as the bind-off needs both beds as well.
You will be able to create the design and shape by yourself in the software. I don’t think we will incorporate a template for a blanket like this (in the beginning).
I hope that is helpful. 🙂
In response to the original questions re: slip stitch. I am just guessing but on the Silver Reed machines, fair isle is really done by slip stitch. Imagine color #1 with pass 1 … the non-selected needles have the yarn pass under them. Color #2 needles are selected and the yarn passes under the non-selected needles. The non-selected needles in either color are what cause floats. On Silver Reed 840s, 280s, 155s, etc., two colors are knit in fair isle in one pass. So if you select specific needles with the yarn passing under non-selected needles and then advance one row, I believe that will be a one color slip stitch.
Make sense? Feel free to contact me if I can explain it better!
I imagine tuck lace is also possible. This is generally single bed with needles out of work on either side of the tuck stitch so KXTXK (K=knit, X=needle out of work, T=tuck.) Per K-code (if I understand it correctly), each bed is knit in one pass in one direction. So you cannot select 2 adjacent needles to tuck – there would be a tangled mess. Same as Japanese style knitting machines (Silver Reed, Brother, etc.) single bed.
I’m investigating on the technical capabilities of Kniterate and need to be sure that :
– it’s able to knit 3D garment, I see it can knit the body and sleeves like tubulars and join then , make decrease stitches for shoulders and lean a hole for neck. But in this case the body and sleeves can’t start with double bed stitches (like rib) ?
Let’s formulate my question like that : Is Kniterate able to knit 3D an entire sweater with double bed stitch (like double bed jacquard or any kind of rib ) ?
– Does the machine able to close the stitches of last row ? Or do we need to put on linker ? Or close by hand ?
Looking forward to your answer (s) , Thanks !!!!
I’m not a Kniterate expert but I have worked with double bed machines.
The bed width is 36″. Knitting tubular will yield 72″ of course. But ribbing, whether FNR (full needle rib), 1×1 or other variations, requires both beds to knit a single width.
Assume you’re making a tubular sweater using all 252 needles on each bed. The main body, decreases for arm holes, short rows and bind off for shoulders and short rowing plus bind off for the head opening seem (relatively) straight forward. For ribbing and DBJ (double bed jacquard), your widest width is 36″ … flat. So ribbing would have to be attached via a linker or other methods in 2 pieces. Sleeves with ribbing at the cuffs might be able to be done tubular, depending on the style of sleeve. Set in would likely work in one tubular piece but dolmans would likely exceed 36″ in width. And then you’ll need a means to attach the sleeves to the main body.
For a smaller garment not exceeding 36″ in diameter, you’ll have more flexibility but I still don’t know about the sleeves.
Kniterate experts – please correct me where I’m mistaken!
Hi @el trato and @margit,
Please remember that our machine is a flatbed knitting machine.
We knitted a seamless solid coloured beanie with a rib and jersey decreases for our Kickstarter campaign (here) but to achieve this we knitted every other needle to be able to transfer on the opposite bed for the decreases and the rib but due to that the fabric is not a true 7gg anymore with a looser feel.
To be honest we haven’t knitted a seamless jumper yet but the needle bed might not be wide enough for the body, sleeves and all the decreases (for those and the rib you need to knit every other needle) for an adult jumper. Furthermore, if you want to knit double bed jacquard tubular you need to probably have more free needles than every other as you need them for the decrease as well. This technique would put a lot of tension on the yarn and might break easier. Also, the jacquard becomes quite flimsy. Additionally, there won’t be enough yarn feeders to knit a seamless multi colour jacquard jumper (maybe 2 colours for this kind of garment but not more). The machine has 6 feeders and the two sleeves and the body need separate feeders for every colour that is used.
So I wouldn’t recommend it with a double bed jacquard. But I see possibilities in a seamless jersey jumper (for kids or small-sized adults).
If we’re going to test this kind of garments we will keep you updated through Instagram, our newsletter and our website.
Yes. The machine does the bind off for you.
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